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in july 2009 my cscs card was due to expire so as i usualy work with 3 more men i am normaly pointed out as superviser.
I decided to take the supervisers test which i passed i recieved a cert for my supervisers pass.
when i applyed for my card i was told that i could not have a supervisers card as i would have to have a nvq.
I believe that this is unfair, i had to buy a book a dvd and put more time into passing the test to be then told that i cant have a card for the test that i have passed.
I dont want to supervise 1000 men just the small team that i work with.
I believe that this is a oversite by the cscs people.
every team should have a superviser no matter what the trade,and that person should be compitant a card would show this.
Is there anyway this can be acheved without taking a nvq
Unfortunately only, if applying for a CSCS Card for the first time and have a Construction related NVQ or SNVQ, City & Guilds or other industry Qualification, may you be exempt and not have to take the Health and Safety Test and obtain a supervisors CSCS card.
Unlike years previous whereby you could once apply for a CSCS Card without any such prior qualifications, nowadays it really depends on your qualifications held they will dictate what CSCS Card you can apply for and further details on CSCS Cards and types available can be found here CSCS Cards
Trust this helps
CSCS Administration
I recently done my scaffolding supervisors course(already scaffolder NVQ3) at Glasgow NCC. When my company applied for my card we were told that since my H&S test would be needing done again within the year, I’d have to redo it. Is there a specific H&S test I must do for the supervisors card?
Hi Allan,
You may need to take the supervisors CSCS test or even the working at heights CSCS test as you’re a Scaffolder i’d suggest the supervisors test which you can easily book online here Book my CSCS Test trust that helps.
i am an experienced site manager who is looking at the profiling route to gain my managers cscs card, i have the applicant evidence sheet but for the life of me i am really struggling to understand any of it. i have everyone on site looking at them from site manager to construction manager yet with over 200yrs of experience we are unable to complete the form. can you help
Alan, theres more to it that just completing the form ill email you the guidelines to help you out
Hello.
I think I understand the questions in the evidence sheet and I might be interested in getting my supervisor’s card via this Profiled Route. How long is it going to take and how much do you charge for reviewing?
Re your comment, safetymat, we would also be gratefull for this info
[email protected] , we are in the same predicament…
Hi I have also been looking at the Profiling route for CSM. I have downloaded the form & guidance notes from CSCS. Is their anything else I should be aware of as it seems to be a simple task of giving examples of how you meet the criteria having these checked & making the application.
Hi, Like alan i am finding some area’s of the profiling route not easy. could you email me the guildlines also? many thanks
Hi Alan
I’m sorry to trouble you but I’m in a similar position to the gentlemen in the other two posts. I’ve filled in the profiling form but it seems that there is more?
I’d appreciate the guidelines.
Many Thanks
@safetymatters
Hi,I am in the same situation,could you help,please?Thank you
Hi,
I am a former site manager, and am now working as an NVQ Assessor within the Construction sector. I have a Construction Management Degree gained from Bolton University in 1996. I am interested to see whether I could get my Level 4 Managers NVQ, through the profiling route. I already have a Level 3 Supervisors card. Thanks for your time, Steve.
Hi,I am in the same situation,could you help,please?Thank you
Hi
Iam also looking to go down the profiling route could you forward the guidlines for filling in the form for the Site Managers Card.
Thanks in antcipation.
Hi,
sorry to trouble you but i`m also in the same position, please can you email me the guidelines,many thanks .
please could you e-mail me the guidelines also not sure what the questions are asking for
here,s 1 for you then which is definately a massive gaping hole in the cscs/cpcs system. I was being assessed for my cpcs and cscs card from operative to supervisor, from red card to blue card, NVQ3 I believe. The initial interview, maths test and paperwork was completed on site, I sat and passed the supervisor h&s test but whilst waiting for the assessor to re visit site I went off sick from work. Whilst being unfit for work my cards expired and 2 years have now passed. I would like to return to work but cannot get a job due to having no valid cpcs/cscs cards. I cannot afford to pay for them myself due to being on benefits and I cannot get the free training as I am not employed. I could get a job as a basic site operative to obtain the free training but the nature of my health restricts my movement which also means I would get sacked the same day for not pulling my weight! Surely there is something that can be done but nobody wants to help me as there is nothing in it for them. Can you help or advise me?
Hi
Im in the same situation as everyone could you please send me the guide lines to filling out the managers evidence sheet, many thanks.
Hi sorry to to trouble you but i am in a similar position as others i also have a hnc but this is not regarded as adequate but is on par with4/5 nvq s and think this is unfair and would appreciate the guidelines thanks
Hi,
I have been interested in how everyone is finding the profiled route complicated. I have a degree in Construction Management from 1994 and I then worked for a top main contractor in site management for 4 years. I then set up my own small building company where I managed barn conversions, extensions etc. Lately, I have obtained a position with a large contractor once more and am in need of a black managers cscs card. I believe I should be eligible for the profiled route. I would value your comments and would also be pleased if you could email me the guidlines.
Many thanks. Simon Jeffery
Hi,
I am also looking at using the profiled route to obtain a cscs site managers card. Could you please forward me the guidelines. Many thanks.
Hi
Like Simon I have an HNC and view it as extremely unfair like him how this cannot be recognised as adequate, albeit not focusing on management. I currently have a Trainee Technical/Management card which expires soon, this can be re-newed for a further 3 years however after this I would need to apply for a Black Card. I believe the only sensible option to obtain this card is the profiled route, therefore any guidlines would be much appreciated.
please check you email inbox
Hi
Like a lot of others I am looking at the profiled route to obtain a cscs site managers card. Could you please forward me the guidelines, much appreciated. Thanks.
Similar to the above.Could you also forard me the quidelines
register template sent to your email address
Hi,
Like the majority of the posts on here I too am struggling with the profiled route AES. I would very much appreciate a copy of the guidelines too.
Thank you in advanced.
hi guys
Currently working as a site manager and would appreciate the guidlines to completing the profiled route to a black card
many thanks
Hi
Like a lot of others I am looking at the profiled route to obtain a cscs site managers card. Could you please forward me the guidelines, much appreciated. Thanks.
Hi!
Read with interest everyone’s comments and find myself with the same problem. I would be so very grateful for a copy of the guidlines also. Sorry to be a pest because I notice there is a lot of the same request out there.
Thanks in anticipation,
Allan Myle3s
I have requested a copy of the guidelines but, I did four years at College and acquired my City & Guilds Certificates. I was told on Wednesday by the CSCS that City & Guilds qualifications don’t help when applying for the Black Manager’s Card.
Does anyone know if this is actually the case? My Manager told me that he got his Black Card with his City & Guilds. He only had to acquire a copy of his certificates and confirmation that he did his apprenticeship in joinery.
I’m 56 and presently hold a Red Trainee Card. I’ve been contracts/site manager for the past twenty-five years. Help!!!!!
Allan
Alan, the guidelines have been sent to your in box
sorry to bother you but could you send me the guide lines to help me get my black managers card thanks
I have site managers black card but it has expired can you tell me how to re apply to update it many thanks
Hi.
I am a working site manager with an HNC in building tech and management.
I am now needing my black card and am thinking of going down the profiled route rather than the nvq way
I have 23 years experience in the industry worked through the ranks.
cscs will not recognize my quals and proven experience as was the case with a nebosh construction cert where I was made to take a smsts
Questions on the profiled route forms are not that difficult although I have read that there is a lot of failures.
I need some guidance through the profiled route and an assessor to sign the sheets off is this something that you could help me with.
Hi,
I am also looking at using the profiled route to obtain a cscs site supervisor card. Could you please forward me the guidelines. Many thanks.
Hello
I am looking at the profiled route to gain cscs card. Have completed SMSTS would apprediate any guidelines you would recommend
Many Thanks
Rob
Hi, I would be really grateful if you could me the same guidelines you have already sent to the others, as I am going to apply using the profiled route.
Many thanks
Chris
Hi iam the same as above please send me some guidelines
many thanks
Gary
Hi, if you could me the same guidelines you have already sent to the others, as I am going to apply using the profiled route..
Many thank
ross iles
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Please can you send me all the details required to apply for the black cscs card through the profiling route including guidelines.
I have been in the construction trade for 30 years and never held a cscs card, although I do hold the cscs managers test certificate.
many thanks
Neil Taylor
Hi
Could I too have a copy of the CSCS Black card guidelines as I too have been scratching my head.
Regards
Mick
could you please send me some guidlines on filling in the AES for the profiled route for construction site supervisor. many thanks
Hi I’m going to apply via the profiled route and would appreciate it if you could send me the guidance notes.
Regards,
Duncan
Please can you send me the details required to apply for the black cscs card through the profiling route including guidelines.
I have been in the construction trade for 35 years and never held a cscs card, although I do hold the SMSTS test certificate..
many thanks.
Steve Mackey
https://www.cscs.uk.com/news/profiled-route-is-now-closed/
The profile route hS BEEN closed since the 1st of April 2016 by CSCS. This website must be quite old and not up to date.
Hope this helps. You need NVQ 3 for gold and 4 or 5 for Black CSCS card.
Hi I am also in a dfficult positon, I am a experianced Site Agent / Site Manager but I have no formal qualifications. I am looking at moving to one of the large construction companies in the uk and I know that I will need the clack cscs card. I have already booked my SMSTS and first aid. Can you tell me what I can do about obtaining my black cscs.
Thanks
Gareth.
Hi, i wolud be grateful if you would forward me the guideline to obtain a cscs black card.
cheers
Dave.
Hi i would be grateful if you could forward
me the same guidline to obtain a black cscs
card please have got gold heritage card at moment
thanks
darryl
Safety matters – would be grateful for the guidelines – have the same problem.
Thanks
Bryony
I am a site manager requiring the black cscs card can you e mail me the guidelines please. Thanks
Hi
Could you please send me the guidelines for the profiled route to the Supervisor CSCS card?
Many Thanks
David
I am a site manager with over 25 years exp in the building game who needs to get the management card
hi ive worked as a self employed joiner/ ceiling fixer for over 20yrs i learn through grandfather rights ,so no nvq,s ect but work on construction sites doing everything from joiner to foreman ,supervisor to management and running my own jobs , how do i get a cscs black card , regards p.mcguire .
Peter,
In order to obtain a CSCS Black card you would need to gain the approriate level NVQ or if you are a Manager there is the profiled route but again you would need the right qualifications to support an application for a CSCS Card at that level.
Does that help?
Hi was looking for some advice about obtaining a black management card.
Im a Site manager with over eight years experience.
I do not have any NVQ but do have SMSTS, First Aid, Pasma, Ipaf.
I have passed the cscs test, but was told i could only get a trainee card.
was wondering if i could go down the profiling route? kind regards, Paul
hi i am working as a site manager but only have a site supervisors gold,have done the smsts course also a pasma card ,3 day firstaid,asbestos awareness iam a city and guilds qualified joiner how do i obtain a site managers black card
dear sir ;
i am a site manager withnover 20 yeras managers experience along with project/contract managers role ;
can you advise quickest way and cost to gain my black card . i have smtms 3 day 1st aid along with cscs card
Hi
Could you please send me details for obtaining a black site managers card .
Thanks
Hi
Could you please send me details on how to obtain a black site managers card.
Thanks
I have run my own business in construction for the past 20yrs but have been out the game for four years and have now come back into it but have had to start from scratch again on a labour’s card. What can I do to be at least a supervisor with my experience. I have no nvq’s at all but did the old supervisors cscs tests.
I have been in building for over 40 years and due to an accident I have had to give up the tools, but I wish to go into management. have just done a SMSTS and because I’ve lost my papers C&G (Pittman)have been told that I cannot have a CSCS for Management I think that it would be a NVQ4 The Company I did my apprenticeship went under about 30 years ago. any ideas.
Hi can someone send me these guidelines too [email protected]
C
Hello, I am looking for some advice on how I can get my Gold Supervisors CSCS card and te cost .
I am a qualified Fitter / welder (City & Guilds cert in 1975 it is lost)
I have worked for the same company for 12 years stating as a Mechanical Fitter and after 3 years was promoted to Mechanical Supervisor for the last 9 years but I have only got the basic site operators cscs card this was not a problem until know as I might be getting made redundant I have done the supervisors H&S touch screen test each time since my promotion but the company never got me the Gold Supervisors CSCVS card, I have the confined space card, Plasma card, Slinger / signaler, SMSTS & first aid at work.
Kind regards Jim
Morning Jim. I believe you need to get a NVQ level 3 + in order to get a CSCS Supervisors card. however, a consultant will confirm the exact route you need to take and will be in touch in due course.
I am now 46 between 16 and 20 I served an carpentry and joinery apprentishsip including block and day release at college. I contacted C&G to try to track down qualifications but no records existed? I have worked as a self employed foreman site agent /shopfitter since, becoming a limited company in 2002. I operate primarily as a sole trader. I have proof of my company including audited accounts can I get the short cut route to a black or gold cscs card. On another matter I paid 2% of my wages to CITB for well over 10 years can I get a discount on an smsts, asbestos awareness and any other new requirements that are required.
Thanks
Kev
Hi kevin.
unfortunately there are no discounts available for paying your 2% and there is no shortcut to the Black or Gold CSCS Card.
The options are down the NVQ route or the professional profiled route which is based on experience – both of which can be costly however there are Grants available, in certain circumstances. If this interests you let me know and i’ll send you the details.
Like many others on here i find myself having had 25 years in site management needing a black cscs managers card and my HNC and ICIOB are not recognised. I have decided to go down the profiled route and would appreciate a copy of the guidelines please.
David,
Like so many of those commenting on you page unfortunately i am of the same predicament. Having a wealth of experience and knowledge and unable apparently to turn that into the expected answers for the CSCS profiled route, which is incredibly frustrating. I would be very grateful if you could send me through the guidance notes. Thanks again….
Yes of course, can you drop us a line please – https://www.veritas-consulting.co.uk/Contact-Form.html
I have black CSCS card already, do I still need Smsts?
It depends whether you intend to be a Site Manager or similar, What is your role?
would it be possible for you to send the guidlelines for the profiled route for construction supervisors to me please.
Yes of course, can you drop us a line please – https://www.veritas-consulting.co.uk/Contact-Form.html
would it be possible for you to send the guidlelines for the profiled route for construction supervisors to me please.
hello David
Like the majority of the posts on here I too am struggling with the profiled route CSM. I would very much appreciate a copy of the guidelines too.
Thank you in advanced.
Hi, could you please forward me the guidelines for the profiled route for construction supervisor ,many thanks
Hiya, I currently hold a black managers card under Grandfathers rights. Do I now have to get NVQ accreditation to renew it?
Fortunately I’ve got a couple of years until it expires …
Hi Mike.
I’m afraid so. In order to renew your CSCS card you will need to gain the relevant qualifications for the CSCS Card you require of which is a NVQ level 4,5 or construction related QCF level 6 or 7.
Does that help?
hi david iam very much the same as a few of the posters iaway up to site manager now I need smsts to get a job which I have been offered whats else can I do many thanks tonym 57 years old been out of work for 3 years because of a road accident , I done 3 and half years as a joiner my boss died kept no records it dint deter me at the time I just kept working my
there could be many site manager courses which leads to gaining the CIOB level 4 diploma . but what would be a good place to start a site manager course?